• Members 5 posts
    Sept. 10, 2019, 12:27 p.m.

    Hi Frank, I have a couple of questions at the very beginning.
    So, I'm casting 20 stitches on one needle with one strand of yarn, and 20 stitches on the same needle with another strand of yarn.
    Where do I "attach a marker to the right side (as sweater would be worn) as soon as you cast on so you can always remember which is the right and which is the left"
    do I attach it to the first cast on stitch of the 1st 20, or the last stitch of the 2nd 20?
    then when i turn to start Row 1: (RS) Both sides: Knit to end.
    so if this is the RS, place marker at 1st stitch of this row? or at the end?

    then to do Row 2 on the WS, so now the Left shoulder would be the 1st 20 stitches, right?
    so if the left shoulder is then the 1st 20 stitches on the WS, how do I purl to the end of the right shoulder?
    then Row 2 (WS): Purl to end of Right Shoulder.
    On Left Shoulder, p7, w&t, knit to neck edge. then still on Row 2, how do I purl 7 on the left shoulder if the left shoulder comes first?

  • Sept. 10, 2019, 3:43 p.m.

    Attach the marker to any cast on stitch right after you finish those FIRST 20 stitches. It doesn't matter where because it is simply a way to remember which side is referred to as "right" and which is "left" in the future instructions. This tip is there because I have often gotten confused myself since the work is upside down and on the back or the front or the RS or the WS. So the marker just says "This is the side that the pattern means by 'right' whenever it refers to right or left."

    However you placed your question after the instruction to knit both sides to the end. So make sure you place the marker on the side you FIRST cast on stitches. Notice that the very first line says, "...CO 20 sts for the back Right Shoulder." So that side is the one you mark. Your question has helped me see this is not as clear as I hoped. I think I'll put a little instruction at the end of that line to place a marker before casting on the second half of the stitches.

    After Row 1, the end of the row is the right side. During the cast on, it is the first of the two sides. So after Row 1, you would mark the side that is the end of the row.

    It doesn't come first on Row 2. I think I have confused you as to which side it right and which is left. As I said, on Row 2, you are starting with the right side, purl that side, and then you are ready to purl the 7 on the left shoulder.

    Please let me know if my answers are not clear and you still have questions. It will get easier after you join the neckline and knitting in the round begins.

    Phrankco

  • Sept. 10, 2019, 6:14 p.m.

    Note: These instructions only apply to the Crew Neck sweater pattern. I have modified both patterns to make it clear when and where to attach the "right side of sweater" marker.

  • Members 5 posts
    Sept. 14, 2019, 7:55 a.m.

    Hi Frank
    My marker was slipping over the top of the stitch, turning the right side into the wrong side. So thanks for helping me with that.
    I got thru the shoulders up to Row 5. I broke the yarn on the right shoulder leaving a long tail.
    I knit to the end of the left shoulder. Then I did the cable cast on 28 stitches, but I cast them on to the needle with the right shoulder on it with a new strand of yarn.
    I think I have to redo that, casting on with the left shoulder strand of yarn onto the needle with the left shoulder stitches, yes?
    Then how do I join it to the right shoulder? Knit 2 together? Or just knit across the 28 new stitches onto the right shoulder?
    Then purl back to the end of left shoulder I guess.
    Sorry I have so many questions, i've not worked from many patterns.

  • Sept. 14, 2019, 10:15 a.m.

    Your second guess was the correct one. You should continue working with the same thread that you just needed across the left shoulder to the neckline. You do not use a new thread at all. Once you cast on the new chain cast on stitches they will be on the needle holding the left shoulder stitches and you will be in a position to begin knitting the right shoulder stitches with that same yarn. If you are unfamiliar with the chain cast on, I suggest you search for ‘chain cast on’ on YouTube and watch a couple of videos. I think my next video will demonstrating that cast on myself, but I haven’t done that yet. There are lots of good ones on YouTube already. After the cast on, you then simply start knitting with that same thread in the next stitch on the other side. This is the same way you join two ends if you’re going to knit in the round, but perhaps you’ve never done that either. You do not knit two stitches together.

    I appreciate your questions. It will be wonderful if you can demonstrate that someone with very little experience could knit one of the sweaters. I believe that is the case, but you are testing my theory for sure. :-)

    Frank

  • Sept. 14, 2019, 10:25 a.m.
  • Sept. 15, 2019, 5:19 p.m.

    I'm afraid I have totally confused you by using the wrong cast on name in my reply. Instead of "chain cast on" I meant "cable cast on." So let me clarify and provide links to videos.

    We use three different kinds of cast ons in the sweater. At the beginning where it says "Right side: CO xx sts." that is referring to the standard long tail cast on.

    Later, when casting on for the back of the neck and then the front of the neck, you use the "cable cast on." You can see a description of that here: Cable Cast On

    Finally, at the underarm, the pattern says to use a "provisional chain cast on", but I just changed it to read "provisional crochet cast on" which is also called the "chain cast on" but now I think "provisional chain cast on" is clearer. That is not the same cast on as the "chain cast on." An excellent video on the "crochet cast on" is here: Crochet Cast On

  • Members 5 posts
    Sept. 17, 2019, 8:03 a.m.

    You've been very helpful with your replies, thanks so much! I had no trouble looking at the YouTube videos for chain and cable cast on and realized they were the same. i can pretty much figure out new stitches that way. But there are other instructions I"m having some confusion with.

    starting Front Shoulders
    With WS facing and the work turned upside down, (knitting from the top edge instead of from the needle) cast on edge of left side is at the top. I get that far.

    Then using the needle emerging from the sweater's left side below and a separate strand of yarn for each piece, pick up purlwise and purl 20 sts *from the middle of each st of the CO row" - 20 sts on each piece.

    I get picking up purlwise 20 stitches with a separate strand of yarn for each piece

    I don't get "from the middle of each st of the CO row. Where is the middle of each stitch?

    Then "using the needle emerging from the sweater's left side below" ---- when the WS is facing me with the cast on edge at the top, it's on the right-hand needle emerging from the right side (shoulder). In other words, my right hand needle (point going to the left) has the right shoulder closest to the point, then neck, then left shoulder. So to CO purlwise, I'm picking up the 1st stitch of the left shoulder (on the top right edge) then another strand CO purlwise from the 1st stitch at the top (right edge) of the right shoulder.

    Is that right?

  • Sept. 17, 2019, 7:46 p.m.

    As for the cast on, I changed the pattern to not use the term "chain" cast on at all. If you download the pattern once more, you will no longer see that term used. One cast on is called a "cable" cast on and the other is called the "provisional crochet" cast on. So all confusion between the two should be cleared up, I hope.

    I'm not quite sure you are describing the correct needle to start the pick up with. Every time the pattern uses the word 'left' it is referring to the side of the sweater that does NOT have the "right side marker" attached to it. So the needle you want to use actually points to your right when the fabric is WS facing and upside down. (Granted, the instructions try hard to describe exactly how to orient the work and which needle to use and where to pick up stitches, but it is a confusing thing to get from words. Maybe I should create a video to demonstrate it.)

    So when the work is WS facing and upside down with the CO edge at the top and the needles holding stitches along the lower edge, then the needle you want to use is the one that is then pointing to your right coming out of what is then on your right, which is actually the left side of the sweater and thus is NOT marked with the "right side marker." So it is the left side of the sweater but is the needle on the right. I know that is confusing and that's why I had you mark the right side of the sweater with that marker at the very beginning.

    Using that needle, you then start picking up stitches at the cast on edge on that same side at the outer edge exactly above where that needle comes out from. You pick up stitches on that edge with one new strand of yarn and then pick up stitches on the opposite side (the right side of sweater) with a second strand.

    Here is a video that shows how to pick up stitches purlwise: Picking up purlwise The only difference is she is demonstrating on a bound off edge and you will be doing it on a cast on edge.

    As for what is the "middle" of the stitch, each stitch is a 'V' when the fabric is upright so the middle of a stitch is the middle of that 'V'. Since the work is upside down, remember that the V's are therefore upside down. However, you will also pick up the first and last stitch of each side in a selvedge stitch, which is not a complete 'V'. So you just do your best to pick up a stitch in that edge. All the rest of the stitches are picked up in the middle of the V's.

    How's that? If it is still unclear, I will try to create a diagram to illustrate it. In a few weeks I will be able to create a video but I am traveling for the next 10 days so I can't get started on that until I get back home.

    I hope you understand that the beginning of the sweater is the most complicated part of the pattern. Once you get the neck closed and start working in the round, the rest is a piece of cake. So be encouraged. You can do this!

    Frank

  • Sept. 24, 2019, 7:02 p.m.

    I finally took a picture that should make it clearer exactly how to pick up stitches at the cast on edge for the Crew Neck pattern. Here's the blog entry with the picture and discussion about it: picking up stitches at cast on edge